Wait a minute,

Talk about off the subject. Oh well, made my point. All I know is I don't want to go to war, Saddaum's the problem, have someone run up to his litle palace and stick a knife in his back. *Shrugs* DOn't see any reason to complicate this mess.

L.C.S.

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Tommy tommy tommy, LOL...that's too much thinking for your noggin' again.

Really, this is irrelevant. If anything, it would make crime waves go down because there would be less corruption to keep the market under control (using violence to push marijuana and so forth). Crime goes up and down all the time. But still...you almost had a good point there...


This is the one that had me shaking my head:

The fact is, like I said before, the reason tobacco is still legal is because it has the money to pay off people for votes and all the congress mumbo-jumbo.

The "Billions of dollars of taxes" that you speak of never see the light of day. A few bucks here and there may make it back to the country, or someones pocket, but in reality, the taxes are made to pay for the health care that the smoker's need later on in life when they are older and dying of something related to their smoking.
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As for enchantres...hehe...thanks for the comment . Actually, I had just finished a report on marijuana for my english class a week or so before this post went off, so it was all fresh. But I do enjoy my history.

The reason you won't see it in your history books, though, about the marijuana is because too many idiot kids would look at it as "Well if the president could, why cant I" sort of thing.
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As for the comments on how dangerous marijuana is...it is dangerous. Sure it is not more than alcahol, or tobacco...but it DOES have its statistics.

But then again...so does Super Glue...yet you can buy that on any shelf in home depot because it has a useful purpose...yet you can sniff it and get high...

I don't know. I just don't like when somthing good or useful gets shafted from a corrupted government.

I think everyone had an interesting point to make on this subject,

HeadNerd, you know you're smart, don't be modest now :wink: , and I kinda see what you mean by the reasoning capabilities of youth. However, this is a controversal subject, its been debated back and forth cross many a board room and none have yet to find a solution. As to my saying its just as dangersous as alchohol, was only saying its as dangerous asthe user makes it to be. If you only have a joint a month, it isn't going ot be very dangers, having two a day however is another matter. But my point isn't whether or not its as dangerous as alchohol, or if its less or more dangerous. My point is that the only reasonI want some of this mess legalize is so that the violent deaths go down. I'm tired of vilence, I see it often enough and I just want someof it cut back, thats all I'm saying. I myself have a litle collection of history, though on the more ancient side. For instance HeadNerd, that sometime between August and Novermber there was a festival held in Ancient Greece to honor th goddess Dianna. There was a feast which included apples still on their bough, thus is became known as the Festival of Apples. Because this was near a a holiday called Samhain, many pagans would place apples on their alters in honor of the goddess. because one of the folk names for apples is The Food of The Dead, Food of The Underworld, Samhain became known as the Festival of the Dead. This is where Halloween is derived from. Just adding my own little tidbit. Ignor the mysticism, I'm half Irish so buzz off :P .

L.C.S.

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You wouldn't happen to be a red head would you :oops: hehe...I have a thing for them.

Anyways...even a joint a month is bad for you. When you smoke a joint, tetrahydrocannabinol (or THC) enters your blood stream and makes its way directly to your brain.

Once in your brain, the THC coats each brain cell with a thin layer of THC. This thin layer screws up electrical signals and chemical signals within your brain, and basically suffocates the brain cell (Thus creating your "high").

However, the reason it is dangerous for those looking to get high is because Marijuana, also known as the gateway drug, does not pack the same punch everytime.

For example. Say your normal "high"...just everyday normal feeling without drugs or anything...say that, on a scale, would register as "0".

Well, what happens when you smoke a joint, your "high" level goes up to 20...so you feel on top of the world. You feel great.

Sadly though, as the THC starts to wear off in the brain, it affects the chemicals which give people such feelings as depression.

So if you start at your normal 0. You go up to 20...but when your high goes away, you are left at -5.

Some people find this to be a horrible feeling, so much that they don't smoke again. Others, however, need to feel happy again. So they look to--what else--but the same joint that got them up in to the mess.

So they smoke some more and go from -5 to 15. But when it wears off, they are left at -10. So they keep trying and keep trying....

-10 to 10 to -15

-15 to 5 to -20

Basically, sooner or later...marijuana doesnt work anymore. Their bodies have become almost "immune" to it.

(Now of course, this is just for the majority of people that use marijuana. There have been test cases of those that don't go through this. However, the process is not as easy as a few tokes, I just made it that way for the sake of the post)


This is how it gets its name as a gateway drug. Because once a high can no longer be reached with marijuana, people move on to harder, touger, rouger drugs, and so on.

So once again..lol...YES I am saying it should be legal...but not for smoking. I think it should be treated as spray paint or glue where you can buy it in stores (already processed of course), but if you are caught smoking the actual bud, it is the same as if you were caught sniffing paint or glue...you get thrown away. This would keep it from getting out of control, seeing that those who smoke weed, do and always do...but as long as its illegal to smoke it, you wont get many "experimenters".

*Giggle and wink*

Actually HeadNerd I have Chesnut hair, which has plenty of red highlights..does that count? :D :wink: . Btw, all that you posted down made me poor little head hurt lol. I know it can be dangerous, I was just trying to cut through all that mess. I'm also not saying it should be legalized for smoking, there are other values that it should be legalized for. I think you were sorta saying have it be legalized for any good value except smoking it, I'm sorry HeadNerd but the media, if not congress itself, would have a field day with that. You'll legalize everything but the smoking? It'd make them look preposterous. If you want this legal HeadNerd, you'll have to accept the good, with the bad. Way it goes in this life I'm afraid. Now, I'm movign off this subject, no more debates with you, I'm strictly history,mythology, english and english lit, I'm no chemist, even if I got A's in Chemistry. So I'm moving off the subject now..yup..this is me..moving :lol:
Oh, here's some information on apples for ya:)
Apple (Pyrys spp.) seeds in large amounts are POISONOUS.
Folk names Fruit of the Gods, Fruit of the Underworld, Silver Branch, The Silver Bough, Tree of Love

Gender Feminine

Planet Water

Deities Venus, Dionysus, Olwen, Apollo, Hera, Athena, Aphrodite, Diana, Zeus, Iduna
August 13 was Diana's Festival in Greece (Venus' in Rome) and on this day a ritual meal was prepared part of which consisted of apples still hanging on their boughs. (A little update, had to look at my notes for actual stuff headNerd 8O )altars are often piled high with apples on Samhain, for the apple is considered to be one of the foods of the dead. For this reason Samhain is sometimes know as the "Feast of Apples". the apple is a symbol of the soul and are buried on Samhain so that those who will be reborn in the spring will have food during the cold winter months.
In Celtic mythology a branch of the apple which had bore buds, flowers and fully-rippened fruit is known as the Silver Bough and was a magical charm to the owner which enabled them to enter into the land of the Gods and the Underworld.
Thats all I have from my notes, later.

L.C.S.

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Glue has a legal purpose. Spray paint has a legal purpose. What is marijuanas legal purpose? Yes, I know it can be used for many things. But it can be used by factories and whatnot, it can be something that is put into something to make it better. Glue, its all ready to go and be used, same with paint. So the only reason you would sell marijuana on a user level market, would be to usually do something that is nowdays illegal with it.

Once again tommy, you are thinking way too much. My answer to your question is within the part you quoted:

[quote]I think it should be treated as spray paint or glue where you can buy it in stores (already processed of course)quote]

Processed marijuana, or "hemp", whatever you want to call it, is not what you would smoke.

Nice try though tommy

its illegal... deal with it...


its not hard to get, i know coz my friends have bought it in my prescence

I wouldn't care because I don't smoke and I never will :D.

i dont smoke either... my friends ,however, do